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CNN legal analyst Elie Honig, a former federal and state prosecutor, answers your impeachment questions. Watch him answer questions on “CNN Newsroom with Ana Cabrera” at 5:40 p.m. ET Sundays. The views expressed are his.

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Kelly (New York):?If the Senate holds an impeachment trial, do the Senators have to publicly hold a vote on whether the President is guilty? Can the vote be held in private?

Article I?of the Constitution broadly grants the?Senate “sole power to try all impeachments” and provides that “no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two-thirds of the members present.” But the Constitution does not specify the manner in which the Senate must take that vote.??

In the absence of any specific Constitutional direction, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will have broad discretion to determine how a vote will take place at the end of a Senate trial.?He may feel that if the vote is held in private, Senators from both parties will be more likely to vote their true conscience and to break from party lines.?????

But both precedent and politics favor an open, public vote.?In terms of precedent, the Senate impeachment trials of?Andrew Johnson?and?Bill Clinton?both concluded with open, public votes.?And politically, it likely will be difficult for McConnell and other Senators to justify anything but open, transparent, Senator-by-Senator voting.?Impeachment and conviction are too important for Senators to hide behind the cloak of anonymity.

Hunter (Minnesota): Can officials other than the President be impeached, and what are the necessary steps in that process???

Article II?of the Constitution provides that “[t]he President,?Vice President and all civil officers of the United States” can be impeached by majority vote of the House and removed by two-thirds vote of the Senate.??

While impeachment is most commonly associated with presidents, other federal officials also can be impeached.?Over?US history, two presidents (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), 15 federal judges, one US Secretary of War, and one US Senator have been impeached.?The?most recent federal impeachment?occurred in 2010 when district court Judge G. Thomas Porteous was impeached by the House and convicted in the Senate for bribery and perjury.????

While?one US Senator?was impeached (but not removed) in 1797, it is?now settled?that members of Congress cannot be impeached because they do not qualify as “civil officers” under the Constitution.?But under?Article I?of the Constitution, either House of Congress can expel its own members by a two-thirds vote.?

Teresa (New Jersey):?If the House goes to court to litigate the White House’s refusal to comply with subpoenas, how long would it take??Could the House go direct to the Supreme Court?

Litigation takes time – perhaps more time than House Democrats realistically have.?

First, House Democrats would have to file suit in federal district court (the lowest, trial-level federal court).?It likely would take months to get a ruling at this level. For example, the House Judiciary Committee?filed suit?to enforce a subpoena on former White House counsel Don McGahn in early August 2019 and the district court has not yet ruled, over two months later.??

After the district court rules, the losing side then has the right to appeal the case to the federal court of appeals.?It likely would take at least a few months to complete briefing and argument and to receive a ruling, even if the process were expedited.?Then, after the court of appeals rules, the losing party can seek review in the United States Supreme Court. The Supreme Court does not have to take any particular case, and in fact only takes a very?small percentage?of them.?If the Supreme Court declines the case, it would take at least a few weeks to issue the declination; if the Supreme Court takes the case, it likely would take several months to brief and argue the case, and to receive a final ruling.

There is a mechanism through which House Democrats could seek to expedite the process by effectively skipping the middle layer of review (the court of appeals).?Under a?Supreme Court rule, a party can apply to bring a case direct from the district court to the Supreme Court “only upon a showing that the case is of such imperative public importance as to justify deviation from normal appellate practice and to require immediate determination in this Court.”?The Supreme Court?rarely?grants such expedited review, but it did so in the famous 1974?US v. Richard Nixon?case where the Court ordered the White House to comply with a subpoena from a special prosecutor and produce the incriminating White House tapes.

William (Delaware):?If the House impeaches and the Senate convicts the President, does he have any options to appeal or contest his removal?

On the face of the Constitution, there is no way for a president or other federal official to appeal an impeachment and conviction.??Article I of the Constitution?gives the House “sole power of impeachment” and the Senate “sole power to try all impeachments,” and makes no mention of any right of appeal.?In fact, the Constitution specifies only one role for the Judiciary Branch in the impeachment process: the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides over a Senate trial.??

Nonetheless, President Trump has suggested by?tweet?that he might contest an impeachment in the Supreme Court.?But the Supreme Court already has ruled that it has no role in reviewing impeachments.?In a 1993 case?Nixon v. United States, federal judge Walter Nixon appealed his impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate to the Supreme Court.?The Court firmly rejected Nixon’s case, ruling that the Constitution commits impeachment and removal solely to Congress and that the Court plays no role in reviewing impeachment proceedings.??

Pat (Colorado):?Can the President really order executive branch employees to defy a House subpoena in an impeachment inquiry??What are the consequences if the employee disobeys the President?

Over the past several months, the White House has ordered executive branch employees and former employees not to comply with House subpoenas relating to the impeachment inquiry.?But the White House has not tried to block testimony from certain witnesses who received subpoenas including Ambassador Gordon Sondland, former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch and Trump’s former Russia advisor Fiona Hill.

If an employee did defy a White House or other executive branch order (from the Secretary of State, for example) not to testify, there isn’t much the White House can do to stop it.?The White House could go to court to seek a temporary restraining order preventing the witness from testifying. But that is an uphill climb. The party seeking the restraining order must prove that it is likely to prevail on the ultimate merits – meaning, here, that the White House would have to prove that the House subpoena is unlawful, and that irreparable harm would be done if the witness testifies.??

The White House also could fire the government employee, but that likely would create political backlash.?A firing also could give rise to a civil lawsuit by the fired employee for wrongful termination. And firing the employee would not stop him or her from testifying – it merely would punish the employee after the fact.??

Bottom line: as a practical matter, there is little the White House can do to enforce its instructions not to comply with House subpoenas.??

Patrick (Georgia):?If the House were to impeach the President, what is the standard of proof that applies to the Senate trial?

In a criminal trial, the prosecutor must prove a defendant’s guilt “beyond a reasonable doubt,” which is the highest standard of proof in our legal system.?In a civil trial, the plaintiff must prove the case by a “preponderance of the evidence,” meaning proof that the allegations are more likely true than not true.

Article I of the Constitution broadly gives the Senate the “sole power to try all impeachments.”?But the Constitution does not specify any particular standard of proof necessary for conviction.?In prior federal impeachment proceedings, including the 1999 Senate impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton, parties made motions to apply the criminal “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard, but those motions failed.?So no particular standard of proof applies at all – or, more precisely, each Senator can apply whatever standard of proof he or she feels appropriate.

Rick (Arizona):?If Nancy Pelosi decides to hold a full House vote on an impeachment inquiry, would the minority party gain procedural rights including, for example, the right to subpoena their own witnesses???

In a recent?letter?to Congress, the White House argued that in the absence of a full House vote, the impeachment inquiry is “constitutionally invalid and a violation of due process.”?In fact, there is no Constitutional or statutory requirement that the House take a full vote, and a federal Court of Appeals?ruled?just days after the White House’s letter that the House is not legally required to vote before issuing subpoenas in an impeachment inquiry.??

Nonetheless, the White House?claims?entitlement to certain procedural protections in the House impeachment process, including the right to subpoena its own witnesses and cross-examine the House’s witnesses.?In both the Nixon and Clinton impeachment inquiries, the minority party was given?limited subpoena power?(subject to override by the investigating committee, which preserved the right of the majority party to block those subpoenas).??

But Pelosi is under no legal obligation to make the same concessions, or any procedural concessions, here.?On one hand, Pelosi might consider giving House Republicans some procedural rights to blunt an argument that the process was unfair or unduly one-sided.?On the other hand, House impeachment is an investigative and (potentially) accusatory process requiring no particular protections for the subject – much like a subject of a criminal investigation has essentially no right to subpoena witnesses at the grand jury stage.?The proper place for due process protections, the argument goes, is at a Senate trial to determine the President’s ultimate culpability.

Diane (Ohio): If the Supreme Court eventually has to rule on any aspect of impeachment -- turning over documents or tapes, for example -- do the Justices nominated by Trump have to recuse themselves?

No.?A Supreme Court justice always has the discretion to recuse himself or herself from a given case if there is a conflict of interest.?In fact, Supreme Court justices – unlike all other federal judges – are not subject to a specific?code of ethics, so they have essentially free reign to do whatever they choose.?But generally, justices need not recuse from a case merely because it involves the same President who appointed him or her.

The 1974?United States v. Nixon?case provides historical precedent.?The?court ruled?8-0 against Nixon, requiring him to turn over the White House tapes (Nixon?resigned?weeks later).?Three of the eight Justices on the case were?appointed by Nixon?himself: Warren Burger, Harry Blackmun and Lewis Powell.?A fourth Nixon-appointed Justice, William Rehnquist, did recuse himself – not because he had been appointed by Nixon but because he had?worked?in the Nixon administration’s Justice Department.

Bruce (California): Can the President be forced to appear at an impeachment trial in the Senate to be interrogated??

No.?A president, like any person in the United States, enjoys a?Fifth Amendment?right against self-incrimination.?That means that any person, including the President, can decline to give testimony in any proceeding if that testimony might lead or contribute to future criminal charges against him.?While current?DOJ policy?counsels against indicting a sitting president, a President still can be charged criminally after his term ends, so a president does have Fifth Amendment rights even while in office.

There is precedent for witnesses invoking the Fifth Amendment to avoid answering questions in Congressional hearings.?Perhaps most famously, in 1987?Lt. Col. Oliver North?took the Fifth repeatedly during Congressional hearings relating to the Iran-Contra scandal.??

Trump can, of course, choose to give up his Fifth Amendment rights and testify in a Senate trial.?But such a move is exceedingly unlikely, given the potential risk of self-incrimination and the high profile and stakes of a Senate trial.?Do not expect to hear testimony from Trump if he is tried in the Senate.??

Keith (Texas): The White House argues that the House must hold a full vote before this is a valid impeachment inquiry. Is?that right, and shouldn't House Republicans have the ability to subpoena materials and make their own arguments?

In its?letter to House Democrats?on Tuesday, the White House served notice of its blanket rejection of all congressional subpoenas and information requests relating to the ongoing impeachment inquiry. Essentially, the letter memorializes under formal legal cover Trump’s prior?vow?to “(fight) all of the subpoenas.”

The White House’s primary?objection?is that the full House has not voted to open an impeachment inquiry, rendering the inquiry – as?announced?at a press conference by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, without any formal House action – “constitutionally invalid and a violation of due process.” The White House?argues?that the House has not established “even the most basic protections demanded by due process under the Constitution and by fundamental fairness,” including the ability for Trump’s legal team to cross-examine witnesses and to subpoena its own evidence.

Article I of the?Constitution?broadly grants the House the “sole power of impeachment.” There is nothing in the Constitution, statute or prior judicial decision to indicate that a vote of the full House is required to start an impeachment inquiry. However, the full House did?formally vote?to initiate impeachment proceedings against both Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton.

The White House appears to have two primary strategic goals. First, the White House demands several procedural protections (or, depending on perspective, privileges) including the ability to subpoena its own witnesses and evidence. In the Nixon and Clinton cases, the House did?grant subpoena power?to the minority party, subject to override by majority vote of the investigating committee.

Second, the White House likely aims to force vulnerable?Democrats?in closely contested districts to vote either for an impeachment inquiry (and risk alienating voters opposed to impeachment) or against it (and risk alienating base Democratic voters and independents who favor impeachment).

Pelosi has?signaled?little interest in holding a formal vote. This is a calculated risk. On one hand, if the House does vote and approves the inquiry, Pelosi eliminates one of the White House’s primary legal objections to House subpoenas. (There is little risk of Pelosi holding a vote and losing; as Speaker, she almost certainly would only take that step if she knew she had enough votes to carry the motion). On the other hand, a formal vote could enable Republicans to extract concessions including the subpoena power, as in the Nixon and Clinton impeachment proceedings.

Even if the House does vote to open a formal inquiry, do not expect the White House to suddenly start complying with House subpoenas. Nowhere in its letter does the White House so promise. And given the White House’s well-established pattern of obstructionism, I’d expect it simply to turn to another basis to fight House subpoenas –?executive privilege?or?absolute immunity, for example. So, while a full House vote would defeat one of the White House’s primary objections, Congressional investigators still would have to overcome other obstacles to obtain evidence from the executive branch.

Dave (Kansas): If Trump is impeached and removed, and Mike Pence becomes president, then how is a new vice president selected?

The?25th Amendment, which was?ratified?in 1967, provides that (1) the new president (in this hypothetical, Pence) selects a new vice president and (2) that person must then be confirmed by majority votes of both the House and Senate.

Just a few years after its passage, the amendment was put into use – twice. In 1973, Vice President?Spiro Agnew?resigned in the midst of a federal bribery investigation, President?Richard Nixon?selected Gerald Ford as the new vice president, and Ford was confirmed by the House and Senate. Then in 1974, Nixon resigned during the Watergate scandal. Ford became president and selected Nelson Rockefeller as vice president, who was then confirmed by both houses of Congress.